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# What’s the bull case bear case for Alibaba?

# Alibaba (BABA / 9988-HK) — Bull Case vs. Bear Case

As of 31 May 2026 the stock has just printed FY26 Q4 results (mid-May), with the H-share closing around HK$138 [7]. Coverage is dominated by an "investment-cycle" debate: cloud/AI is accelerating, while consolidated profits and free cash flow have collapsed under self-funded capex. Below synthesizes CLSA's internal coverage with the FY26 Q4 earnings call and the latest sell-side reaction.

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## Bull Case

**1. Cloud Intelligence Group is at an AI commercialization inflection point.**
- External cloud revenue growth accelerated to **+40% YoY** in Mar-Q FY26, with AI-related product revenue posting **triple-digit YoY growth for the 11th consecutive quarter** and now representing **~30% of external cloud revenue** [1].
- Annualized AI-related product revenue reached **RMB 35.8bn (~US$5.3bn)** [1]. Management guided AI revenue share of cloud to cross **50% within ~1 year** and external cloud growth to **continue accelerating beyond 40%** [1].
- Management guided **Model-and-Application-Services ARR to surpass RMB 10bn in the June quarter and RMB 30bn by year-end FY27**, calling the revenue stream **high-margin** [1].
- Cloud adjusted EBITA margin held a stable **9.1%** even amid heavy investment [4], and the Street expects cloud margins to expand further as MaaS / proprietary chip mix rises [7].

**2. Full-stack AI moat — proprietary silicon and a Qwen-led model platform.**
- **T-Head GPU chips are in scaled mass production with >60% of compute capacity already serving external customers** across internet, financial services, and autonomous-driving verticals [2]. This is a hedge against US export controls and a structural gross-margin lever.
- Alibaba launched the **Zhenwu M890 AI chip** at the Cloud Summit on 20 May 2026 [10], reinforcing the silicon roadmap.
- Simultaneously, the **US has authorized Alibaba (alongside Tencent, ByteDance, JD) to buy up to 75,000 Nvidia H200 chips each** [9], giving the cloud business optionality on both domestic and frontier compute.
- The Qwen app is fully integrated across Taobao, Tmall, Alipay, Amap and Fliggy, positioning Alibaba as China's first integrated personal-assistant ecosystem [1].

**3. Core commerce (TTG) is stabilizing with monetization tailwinds.**
- Mar-Q FY26 China e-commerce CMR grew **+8% YoY on a like-for-like basis**, with management noting "stable" core EBITA ex-quick-commerce [4].
- CLSA's bull thesis: TTG CMR can sustain **~10% growth in FY26**, supported by the software-service-fee rebate roll-back, **Quanzhantui take-rate expansion**, and AI ad tools driving SME/white-label merchant monetization [11]. CLSA initially called out Mar-Q TTG CMR of **+11.8% YoY to RMB 71.1bn, with take-rate +0.2pt YoY** [11].

**4. International (AIDC) approaching breakeven; quick commerce UE improving.**
- AIDC's adjusted EBITA loss "narrowed significantly year-over-year, approaching breakeven" in Mar-Q, with AliExpress Choice UE improving sequentially [4].
- Quick commerce: order volume **2.7x year-ago** (non-food 3x), and management is "confident UE will turn positive by end of FY27" [4]. CFO expects quick-commerce losses to "narrow very substantially" over next two years and AIDC to flip to profit [5].

**5. Fortress balance sheet funds the AI cycle without dilution.**
- **US$38bn net cash; ~US$58–59bn excluding debt maturing beyond five years** as of 31 March 2026 [5][3]. Operating cash flow from Taobao/Tmall remains "very stable" and is being recycled into AI capex [5]. Board approved an annual dividend of **US$1.05 per ADS** [4].

**6. Sell-side and CLSA endorse the long thesis.**
- CLSA reiterates **High Conviction O-PF, US$165 TP** (33% upside at the May-2025 print) on faster cloud growth + TTG take-rate expansion [11][14].
- Post-results sell-side ratings: **Buy 92% / Hold 6% / Sell 2%**, average TP **US$190.19 = 30.4% upside**; Morgan Stanley raised TP to US$190, HSBC to US$180 [7].
- CLSA models adj NP CAGR of ~9–10% to FY28, with FCF yield recovering to **7.6% by FY28** as AI capex normalizes [11 — note: this Year-to-March table sits in chunk 2d66ad9d, sourced via the same CLSA Mar-Q note].

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## Bear Case

**1. Profitability has collapsed — the cycle is real, not just optical.**
- Mar-Q FY26 **Total adjusted EBITA fell -84% YoY**, driven by AI tech-business investments, quick commerce subsidies and user-experience spend [3]. **GAAP net income was only RMB 23.5bn**, flattered by mark-to-market gains [3].
- The prior Dec-Q FY26 already saw **adjusted EBITA -57% YoY** [6], so this is a multi-quarter degradation, not a one-quarter blip.
- "All Others" segment delivered an EBITA loss of **RMB 21.2bn** on foundation model + Qwen app investment [4].
- The market punished the print: **9988-HK -5% in the post-earnings week**, with analysts flagging that **"capex may exceed initial plan due to cloud infrastructure costs"** [8].

**2. Free cash flow has turned sharply negative.**
- Mar-Q FY26 **operating cash flow only RMB 9.4bn; free cash flow an outflow of RMB 17.3bn** vs. positive last year [3].
- Sep-Q FY26 FCF was already **-RMB 21.8bn** [— prior quarter context, BABA earnings transcript]. CFO Toby Xu admitted that over the **next two years, AI investments will continue at the same resolute pace** [5], meaning negative FCF likely persists.
- This breaks the long-standing buyback/dividend cushion that supported the equity story.

**3. China e-commerce is a low-growth, intensely competitive battleground.**
- Core CMR grew only **+1% YoY headline** in Mar-Q (the "+8%" requires excluding the new contra-revenue subsidy program) [4]. China E-commerce Group EBITA fell **-40% YoY** [4].
- Management explicitly warned that **"adjusted EBITA will continue to fluctuate quarter-over-quarter due to intense competition and significant investment in user experience"** [6] — i.e., the quick-commerce war with Meituan / JD / Pinduoduo is structural, not transient.
- Quick commerce revenue grew **+57% to RMB 20bn** but at the cost of TTG's profitability [4]; UE will only turn positive **by end-FY27** [4] — investors are paying for promises 18+ months out.

**4. Cloud return-on-invested-capital is unproven.**
- Analyst Kenneth Fong (UBS) framed the bear concern directly: "**AI investment… [has] created significant drag on the group free cash flow as well as our EBITA**" — and asked how investors should assess ROI [— BABA FY26 Q4 transcript]. Management's response (manufacturing-capex analogy, "every card is in use") is conviction, not evidence.
- Cloud margin is only **~9%** [4] — far below US hyperscalers' incremental returns — and even bulls model only modest margin lift on rich AI mix.
- Demand for tokens is sustainable only if Chinese enterprise willingness-to-pay for SaaS catches up to US norms; management acknowledged China SaaS willingness "remains lower" today [— BABA FY26 Q4 transcript].

**5. Geopolitical and regulatory overhang.**
- **ADR delisting risk** remains a tail concern — CLSA has a dedicated note on "escalating ADR delisting risk" covering BABA among the affected names [— CLSA "China internet (Escalating ADR delisting risk)", 21 April 2025].
- Approved H200 purchases face Beijing pushback — "deals have stalled despite US approval, with pressure mounting in Beijing to block or tightly screen the orders amid fears that imports could weaken a push to develop homegrown AI chips" [9].
- Trump-Xi détente helps tone but Taiwan was flagged with "extreme caution" required, leaving headline risk live [— Trump-Xi summit, 14-May-2026].

**6. Smart money has been trimming.**
- Q1 13F filings showed material BABA selling: **Appaloosa cut BABA -33% (5.1m → 3.5m shares); Third Point fully liquidated 825K shares** [— 13F filings, 15-May-2026]. This contrasts with the "buy 92%" sell-side reading [7] and suggests positioning fatigue.

**7. Sell-side itself is trimming forward earnings.**
- Q1 FY27 EPS revised **-9.1% to RMB 10.17**, FY26 EPS **-4.4%, FY27 EPS -3.4%** [7]. Even within a "Buy" consensus, near-term earnings power is being downgraded.

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## The Bull/Bear Verdict in One Frame

| Metric | Bull Reading | Bear Reading |
|---|---|---|
| Cloud +40% / AI ARR RMB 35.8bn [1] | "AI revenue inflection — multi-year compounder" | "9% margin, ROI unproven, capex outrunning revenue" |
| FCF -RMB 17.3bn, EBITA -84% [3] | "Investing through the cycle, like Amazon 2014–18" | "Earnings recession, no near-term valuation support" |
| US$58bn net cash [5] | "Funds AI war chest without dilution" | "Being burned down faster than expected" |
| Quick commerce +57% rev, losses widening [4] | "Path to UE-positive by FY27" | "Cash bonfire to defend share against Meituan/JD" |
| Qwen + T-Head + H200 approval [2][9] | "Full-stack AI moat with optionality on US chips" | "Sovereign-tech politics could revoke either leg" |
| CLSA HC O-PF / TP US$165 [11], Street avg US$190 [7] | "30%+ upside, near-unanimous Buy" | "Bullishness is consensus — Appaloosa/Third Point selling" |

**Bottom line:** The bull case is essentially an AI/cloud re-rating story plus a balance-sheet-funded transition; the bear case is that the existing earnings base is shrinking faster than the new growth base is scaling, with FCF, competitive intensity, and geopolitics as the three transmission channels. Whether the next 12 months reward bulls hinges on (a) sustained cloud revenue acceleration above the current 40% [1], (b) quick-commerce UE inflection on schedule by end-FY27 [4], and (c) FCF turning positive again — none of which are visible in the Mar-Q FY26 print.

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**Sources**
[1] Alibaba Group Holding Ltd., Q4 FY2026 Earnings Call, 13-May-2026 (cloud +40%, AI ARR RMB 35.8bn, MaaS ARR targets)
[2] Alibaba Group Holding Ltd., Q4 FY2026 Earnings Call, 13-May-2026 (T-Head GPU >60% external)
[3] Alibaba Group Holding Ltd., Q4 FY2026 Earnings Call, 13-May-2026 (EBITA -84%, FCF -RMB 17.3bn, US$38bn net cash)
[4] Alibaba Group Holding Ltd., Q4 FY2026 Earnings Call, 13-May-2026 (CMR, quick commerce, AIDC, cloud margin 9.1%, dividend US$1.05)
[5] Alibaba Group Holding Ltd., Q4 FY2026 Earnings Call, 13-May-2026 (CFO Toby Xu on FCF, US$58bn net-cash ex-LT-debt)
[6] Alibaba Group Holding Ltd., Q3 FY2026 Earnings Call, 19-March-2026 (prior-quarter EBITA -57%, intense competition language)
[7] StreetAccount — Street Takeaways: Alibaba Group Q4 earnings, 14-May-2026 (HSBC/MS/GS TPs, Buy 92%, EPS revisions)
[8] StreetAccount — Weekly AI movers: Alibaba Q1 core profit plunged on heavy AI spending, 15-May-2026
[9] StreetAccount — US clears ~10 Chinese firms to buy Nvidia's H200 chips, 14-May-2026
[10] StreetAccount — Alibaba launches Zhenwu M890 AI chip at Cloud Summit, 20-May-2026
[11] CLSA — Alibaba: Solid TTG growth (HC O-PF, TP US$165), 15-May-2025 — 607959625LinqAlpha.PDF
[12] CLSA — Alibaba: Cloud Intelligence Group commentary (AliCloud +18%, AI demand post-CNY), 15-May-2025 — 607959625LinqAlpha.PDF
[13] CLSA — Alibaba: AIDC commentary (losses -13% YoY, -28% QoQ; quarterly breakeven target FY26), 15-May-2025 — 607959625LinqAlpha.PDF
[14] CLSA — Alibaba: Price target US$165 / +33% upside table, 15-May-2025 — 607959625LinqAlpha.PDF

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